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A few years ago? Is that the same one a lot of us started using earlier this year after the war broke out and then 6.2 had its difficulties? I’d love to see some activity there again but it died down fairly quickly.
I haven’t even been active in months because the price of gil plummeted so much that even some fairly lean Miqo setups can’t really generate enough gil to cover much more than the cost of the subs (XIV+retainers+Miqo per client) especially with just how limp the XIV in game markets have been. My 2b gil per month slowly evaporated into about 400m which would have used to been worth it, but that’s barely 200 USD now per month, so I have been putting in just enough effort to make sure the accounts cover their subs since keeping the Miqo keys active is at least not a net loss for me, but it’s a struggle and now I’m even having to watch every cost closely even down to the electric costs for my low-power bit-optimized PCs. The expected delay from 6.3 is going to hurt, though, but at the very least it’s not a major new tier/gear patch like 6.2 where each day while the Gil profits were good (Did 1200m profit manually on launch week, but it was woooork). If gil wasn’t so worthless these days I may have taken up someone’s offer to use their well-equipped Minion account, but I really don’t want to go through all the hassle of learning that mess if it’s only going to really help keep my uptime a few weeks higher per year. I want to remain just using Miqo and my own bot kit if I can, but unless gil gets back to normal prices, I’ll just take the hit.
As always, though, wishing the Miqo team the best. A lot of us have not forgotten you at all over this long and difficult year. I am relieved to see them all having made it this far, but I am very saddened that there is no end in sight yet. From here, I’ll be doing all I can to try and keep the American public’s support of Ukraine up and trying my best to counteract the high amount of foreign influence by the Russians any more than they have already. Even if this war ended today, the travesty of human life they caused would leave deep scars for generations. From there, the best I can wish is for luck and fate to be with Ukraine.
I have an idea for a workaround for this since the issue is with the reliance on step count.
So with the macro rotations, the comma between actions is the signifier to wait a step. So you just need a way to trick Miqo into thinking there isn’t even a step there.
So instead of a macro like Ctrl+1,,,,,Ctrl+2,,,
With Final Appraisal on the 6th step which would be activated after the 5th comma, you’d need to move it over to the first step of a new macro, which in this example is the first step triggered after Ctrl+2. So at that point you’d need to make sure Miqo doesn’t get stuck waiting on a step but also doesn’t activate the first step it is expecting. For this example let’s say that the action following final appraisal is Basic Synthesis which would make this example macro set look like…
Macro on Ctrl+1
/ac First Macro Action <wait.3>
/ac…
/ac…
/ac…
/ac…Macro on Ctrl+2
/ac “Final Appraisal” <wait.3>
/ac First action after Final Appraisal
/ac…
/ac Final Macro SkillTo the game, there are 9 steps in this macro, but to Miqo, there is only 8. The macro will activate as usual with Ctrl+2, activate Final Appraisal, wait the important 3 seconds before the next step, and then Miqo will just think the first step in the second macro is just taking a few seconds longer than usual. Then the 2nd step in the 2nd macro activates and finishes, and Miqo just sees the next step that it’s been waiting on has finished as expected and continues onward.
I can’t test this idea for you atm, but let me know if it works. It may not work as is and need a slight adjustment, but I do think this basic hypothesis should work.
What you see on your client is no where near what other players see. I’ve tested all sorts of movement and watching one client from another, from same and drastically varied network routes, and one thing that’s extremely noticeable is that EVERYONE looks janky, which is to be expected from 10+ year old netcode for a game that doesn’t really need much precision. So much of the movement and display is client sided and the server updates only a small fraction of that movement compared to what your client displays as a way to save on network resources.
Lots of things make it obvious someone is botting, but the smoothness of the movement just isn’t one of them so you don’t really need to worry about that.
Wonderful! There’s a few island things I want but I just don’t have the time to do it myself unless it’s on the side with some rare downtime of my own, so I’ve been hoping there will be an ultra lazy version using Miqo scenarios eventually.
Do you plan to share your grid/preset that you’ve (somehow already, wow) made once you’ve got it finalized in a way that you like?
And as a little off-topic aside of an opinion question, does Miqo seem to be running noticeably smoother than before this most recent update? It could be from any number of things or even localized to just something with my PC (which I haven’t made any changes to, so I don’t think that’s likely), but just little things (especially crafting) seem to have much smoother timings like less wait per automatic input. It’s only something like instead of 1 second per menu movement, it’s 0.5 seconds instead, but added up for the tens of thousands of times it’s doing that per week on me, it’s going to improve efficiency dramatically. There was nothing in the status post update about such an upgrade, so I’m curious if anyone else familiar with Miqo is noticing the same or not.
That many people having asked to help, getting that far along in the process, and then backing out, has got to be very time consuming to deal with. I could see a situation soon in which it’s almost a necessity to stop even trying to bring new outsiders on, not only because the most likely candidates that all care about Miqobot to offer to help for free, know the requisite skills needed, and possibly have the time to do so has likely been burned out by now. It made sense to see if some of the well known and talented users that have been with the community for a while could help at first, but now it has resulted in what must be a fairly significant drain on the available resources that the Miqo team currently has. They are of course polite and understanding about it, but me speaking as just a user who is materially tied to Miqobot’s uptime, I will say that I am frustrated and disappointed in multiple people having not followed through.
I run multiple systems with a combination of bots, some my own to fill in for some feature other bots don’t (more like refuse to, for good reason) provide that were shaped around Miqo, and my XIV costs alone are a significant drain when missing that crucial component, and can’t just be scaled down for a few weeks, which usually I just wait it out during the routine and necessary downtime. Lately I’ve had multiple people trying to convince me to switch over to Minion, with even their high module and sub costs covered, but there’s a lot of reasons I dislike Minion and like Miqo over it.
My programming is not anywhere near good enough to offer help on a non-personal project, but please people (And I don’t mean you in particular, OP), don’t offer help to a project in a situation like this unless you absolutely plan to follow through on it. People’s lives are at stake here, so please step back from the normal, rational, emotional response you probably have to want try and help, and really ask yourself if you understand what you’re asking to do. If there’s one thing a lot of people can do other than voicing their support (I feel bad even writing this much in case it takes up and extra minute of their time and doesn’t help), it’s unexpectedly to not do anything. They have a million and one things to have to focus on, try not to add to it.
And again, OP, this isn’t particularly directed at you at all. I just have seen the cycle of people trying to help and it doing the opposite of what they intended too many times already.
Please just no. The markets have anyway crashed to hell, gear is outright missing a 0 and profit margins dropped a good 95% just from the small amount of private bots. Even just 3 running on a server absolutely crushes the spirit of real people who then get desperate. It’s already a battle of the bots and I feel kind of bad for the normal players who will never know what the markets used to look like just a few years ago before the market bots started multiplying. I’m even part of the problem since I made my own after the first set of them showed up and made it impossible to sell much normally. Now there’s even a few newcomers on the scene and one even copied my method that pretty much uses the bots against themselves. Any public bot goes up with that function and it will destroy the point of them existing in the first place as the margins will drop down to what amounts to only a few dollars extra of gil per subscription period. I already would be running at a loss if I sold on public marketplaces like g2g because with the state of the world, demand for such luxuries is incredibly low and the prices are crashing faster than ever before. It’s gotten so bad that some Profesional ops aren’t even bothering anymore because with sub+retainer costs, it’s hard to even cover costs. If Miqo implemented anything similar, I would have no choice but to switch to a cheaper production bot or make my own.
I’m always on controller mode, because I like how the keyboard hotkeys and everything work compared to kvm mode, and I alternate between kbm only (running Miqo 20ish hours a day per year in the privacy of my own home, no stupid busy status that is pretty much an “I’m botting, report me” flag to other players. My real account has been going strong for 5-6 years like this, with Miqo for a little over 2 of that. I crafted/marketed so hard that I had reports pouring in, but nothing ever came from it. However an alt account on another computer, another account, doing the same in an empty apartment, barely lasted a year before getting banned (lots of rmt to justify it and a few other mistakes I made). I doubt people are really bothering to report accounts MGP farming since so little usually comes out of reports and it’s the automated systems you need to be wary of. Nobody knows what they are, as going based on previous admission from FFXI, they’d be looking for things like total MGP earned per day or total games played per time period, etc.
I think all this may be related to the tightening of a few online payment processing procedures. Even my XIV sub a few days ago refused to renew and wouldn’t accept the same card (a card which doesn’t allow subscription auto drafts anyway, that I have to annoyingly “resub” each month on that account, but that’s the price worth paying for having that account on a different card number). When it finally wouldn’t allow the payments I went over the usual steps when getting the infamous payment errors Mogstation is so fond of, and it turned out that it was because I changed addresses about 5 months ago, so my account address and card address didn’t match and that suddenly became too much for the stupid Mogstation anti-fraud to kick in so many months later).c
That was through Venmo, which as some of you may know, is owned and operated by PayPal, so it’s not a crazy jump to assume both the major PayPal processing systems changed in the same way around the same time. My fix was to make sure my XIV account address matched my card billing address. Went through just fine after that correction.
As weird as it waiting 5 months before deciding the address mismatch was an issue, one of the first things you should check is the billing address on file. Venmo is just social media styled Paypal, afterall. I’m sure they share some of the same backbone. Even more weird, all the test $1 charges all went through just fine, but not my sub and retainers. Currently SQEX is holding onto 4x $1 holds on that card which usually a full month. PayPal loves to seize people’s money temporarily (not so much anymore) that I suspect gets added up and used as capital before returning the initial amount a few weeks later with no interest.
God no, please don’t disable your firewall, that won’t help and will only hurt.
If your security is default, you’re probably running into issues even getting to the point where you can even whitelist the Miqo client. There’s two things you must do:
1. Make sure you download the .exe file to a folder that has been whitelisted by Windows Defender. By default, downloaded files to to the browser’s default Downloads folder. While you could just whitelist that and be done with this step, I wouldn’t recommend it as it would leave you open to actual threats in the future. So instead, create a folder for Miqobot to use for now and in the future, and add that folder to the exceptions in Windows Defender. This will stop the (almost instant) automatic deletion of the program upon download. From there, you can…
2. When you try to run it the first time, Windows will still complain and stop the launch. It’ll show a big, often poorly sized window that tells you that it stopped the program from running because it’s potentially dangerous. Scroll right (if it’s overly sized like mine always is) and select “Run Anyway” and it should then let you launch it without issue in the future. You’ll have to do this step every few months when Miqobot gets a new client with new major FFXIV patches.
And optionally 3. Right click the program, select properties, go to the compatibility tab, and check “Run as Administrator” so it doesn’t bug you about that every time.
I’ve been scared to comment on this whole situation, but I really hope they survive this ordeal for multiple reasons.
This may be odd to say, and I don’t want to elaborate much, but I would likely have died a couple years ago if not for Miqobot. I don’t know the devs on a personal level, but they are important people to me. If it’s a while before 6.1 can be fixed, the inflation (mostly corporate greed causing price spikes in everything, but that’s on top of real inflation too) is already causing an environment in which I may not be able to survive much longer as sick as I am. This software for me is a source of housing security, food, and medicine. Without it, my gil operation doesn’t work right. I don’t want to start searching out alternatives (preliminary examination show they are inferior) but may have to do so temporarily, although I’d be returning to Miqo *if* it gets updated again. They did amazing updating the 6.08 hotfix under inhumane conditions. I respect their openness letting people know that it may be a while. I just want them to be safe even on a personal level because indirectly, their efforts have very possibly saved my life.
Miqos, I hope to whatever cruel twist of fate you’re being subjected to resolves soon. This war is a tragedy in a way that is even worse than other wars, which are already hell on earth. The enemy is slaughtering civilians, bombing indiscriminately, raping them, and leaving them dead in the streets to try and crush the Ukrainian spirit. I’ve never been happy about my country supplying weapons internationally before, until now.
I know you don’t know me personally, but you all are heroes to me. Fuck this senseless war of aggression. Fuck all war. Fuck Russia. The world is rooting for you. And even in such desperate time, the most recent status post was a heartfelt, dire warning, for the cruel realities that are to come as this is only one step in a massive upcoming civil unrest across the world. Those were not just the words of a person pushed to their limits as they deal with hell on earth, but a true warning from someone who cares about all of even when the lives of most everyone they know are in tremendous danger. Even with all that weighing on their souls, the Miqos still care about us enough to tell us the harsh truths.
There’s many Final Fantasy quotes that are applicable here that I’m sure the users here must think of. The series has been a great source of media that help even young gamers understand war is hell. But to quote an older series, “of the two, war is worse, because at least in hell, there are no innocent bystanders.”
I should end this desperate rant, it’s droning on by now. If there’s anything I mean to communicate here: 1. Seriously, the devs efforts saved my life. 2. Fuck every war criminal and I can only hope they face true human justice. And 3. Please survive. Some insensitive people here care more about some software being usable again, but even myself who relies on it so much would prefer this be the temporary end of the best FFXIV bot than the safety of my heroes be compromised for the sake of software.
I hope their special set of skills is being used to fight the technological aspect of this war moreso than fixing the bots. For all we know, they’re using their tech skills to wreak havoc on the flawed Russian army infrastructure.
“Eureka Moment”
Turns out I had a few odd skills left on a disabled Hotbar 1 that was preceding the Hotbar 4 I had active on that UI. (1-3 were disabled but Miqo still can use disabled hotbars iirc). So it really want just as simple as purging that Hotbar 1 of the skills getting in the way and now everything works great.
The one other adjustment I had to make was that change of some 0 in the grid value on Lunar Quarts from a 0 to a 50. I don’t know grids well but before that it was stopping too short of the node to collect and just rotating between each spot without collecting. But the previously suggested 0 -> 50 change for that grid fixed that as well.
Everything is working as intended now.
