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[Strife025Participant]

Based on the old grids, probably gonna be a few days until something even somewhat workable is put out. And since alot of people finished their 500K achieve in phase 2 the same people might not be updating grids this time around. I’m hearing that nodes changed so old grids aren’t going to be plug and play once miqobot supports the new map.

I didn’t make one from scratch last time but I was heavily involved in testing them since I got 500K bot/min in phase 2. The zone is huge and there are alot of pathing issues due to the number/location of all of the nodes that it took weeks of iteration until you had a good grid that could be left alone without crashing out.

A normal gathering grid is maybe 30 branches and can updated fairly quickly (i.e. phase 1 I made my own grids in an hour because they were on the normal maps like normal gathering nodes).

Diadem grids have almost 400 branches and are more complex to deal with the tornados, more nodes with more opportunity to get stuck, and diademboom() (which probably won’t be included for initial grids).

If you’re trying for rankings for the first 10 days you’re going to either have to use fishing or one of the crafters and buy mats.

• This reply was modified 4 years, 7 months ago by  Strife025.
• This reply was modified 4 years, 7 months ago by  Strife025.

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[LyfoxParticipant]

Fishing didnt change that much. Thats the whole point of a scenario you make it once and it works for years. You just have to import it: https://miqobot.com/forum/forums/topic/help-import-export/

[shallowsteveParticipant]

This post is over two years old, both miqo and fishing have changed tremendously since then.

[KnightErrantParticipant]

The links says Fishing improvements are done, but there’s no identical cast option. Is this still forthcoming?

[lalafellParticipant]

When choosing to spearfish, I have a different gig chosen for “gig’ and “gig (shadows).” When I get to a shadowed node, the gig isn’t changed. Is this a known bug?

Edit: I tried to manually change the gig before fishing a shadow, but it swapped back to my regular gig setting. It looks like the shadows aren’t being automatically identified as shadows, so it’s only using my “gig” choice.

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[LyfoxParticipant]

shallowsteve wrote:

Even still, assuming that’s accurate, if squid strips are selling for 1.5k, while blues are 3.5k, that small bit of profit isn’t worth the time of fishing over continuing to farm and sell squid strips, then buying blues outright.

Prices change everyday. Ive seen 0.5k and 6.0k yesterday.
Dont get me wrong i agree that better tools would be more efficient. But i dont see a problem with using the existing ones either.

[NekroParticipant]

So I did let miqo run for some time with the versatile lure. And I came to at least some results.

For every 30 minutes fishing interval:

63 Fish -  5 Crabs ( 7.9%)
70 Fish -  7 Crabs (10.0%)
65 Fish - 10 Crabs (15.4%)
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66 Fish -  6 Crabs ( 9.1%) (without Snagging)
68 Fish -  3 Crabs ( 4.4%) (without Snagging)

So I think it’s kinda ok to say, that the rate for bluecrabs with versatile lure is around 10% with the Scenario setup. I just lost 1 bait during those 5 intervals. Not the most efficient thing to do, but you basically don’t need to farm anything for it to run.

[shallowsteveParticipant]

You’re missing the point I was making. It’s not a matter of white scrips, it’s what actually has value and sells on your server.

CBH shows around 60% rate for blues, however that number is likely skewed by people resetting their hook if it goes ten seconds to avoid hooking anything that isn’t a blue. Even still, assuming that’s accurate, if squid strips are selling for 1.5k, while blues are 3.5k, that small bit of profit isn’t worth the time of fishing over continuing to farm and sell squid strips, then buying blues outright.

The scenario is extremely flawed, not because of the scenario, but because of the limitations of miqo. Not being able to force a hook regardless of having caught a fish, nor being able to selectively double hook a fish based on time, just having no timing options at all, it’s just an unfortunate consequence of the dev team not being able to work on all the things at all the times.

[NekroParticipant]

Little update: I needed to explicitly place land() and dismount(), after moving to a fishing hole, so you don’t get stuck in air.
So I exported the full scenario again.

You can delete the scenario. And re-import from this file here. It should only import the scenario, as the rest are duplicates.

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A simple scenario dedicated to farming blue crabs.

Content:
– 1 Scenario
– 2 Navigation Grids
– 2 Fishing Presets

There is currently no way of using identical cast and double hook in combination for a specific fish. So the best use of skills in my opinion is using chum to speed up the process. No Cordial usage as this would burn trough all your cordials in no time.

There are 3 different general spots with 11 individual spots in the grid. Which will be randomely chosen. You can choose one general spot if you prefer one of them. Default it chooses randomely from all available spots. (Look into Chapter 2)

You can jump into it at any time, if you wish.

– If you need to move to a fishing spot jump into Chapter 2
– If you are already at a fishing spot jump into Chapter 3
– If you need to reset the fishing hole cause of suspicious fish, jump into Chapter 4

It is expected that you have the squid strips bait in your bag. Also versatile lure, to use when resetting the fishing hole.

The fishing preset releases all fish. This doesn’t count for blue crabs, as they are 2-star fish, which are considered legendary for miqo. Legendary fish will never be released. If you want to keep all the other fish aswell, remove the relase checkboxes in the Bluecrab fishing preset and save it.

I didn’t tested it in depth, but it should work without any major problems. If you encounter one, feel free to point it out.

Edit: The reset fishing hole grid is maybe a little bit unpolished, but it shouldn’t be that big of a problem, as it is just every ~30min or so.

[TalithParticipant]

Follow up to my previous comment – despite the changes to gathering not being ready for Ishgard resto I would still like to leave my vote for gathering improvements.

I was leaning toward support for an 80 trust dungeon – however you can do trust dungeons with combat assist on? meanwhile we still don’t have basic functionality for Identical Cast? To me its a comparison between basic functionality and something that is nice to have (although understandably if you have different view of Miqo and are only focused on tomes then you’re going to want trusts asap). Moreover the gathering and crafting improvements will still be relevant by the time the development completes (SE extended the last restoration, people are going to be going for points etc). Pricing wise the cost of crafting mats for tomes is going through the floor even now (good time to stock up ;)).

Like I get it, it sucks to not just throw Miqo on and walk off and make lunch while she does a dungeon for you but you’re not supposed to be leaving her unsupervised for long periods of time anyway? (which I kind of get the impression that’s what people want – to be able to put Miqo on, have her farm tomes until you’re capped?). Another factor to consider is that substantial work will need to be done to make these trust dungeon runs somewhat random in apperance. If a bunch of people start running Miqo and capping tomes and SE notices a huge uptick in trust dungeons and investigates then there needs to be an element of randomness or they’ll just ban everyone who runs the exact same route through the dungeon. This isn’t an issue with lower level dungeons as there isn’t as much at stake (I don’t know about other people but I get the impression that SE acts fast on any noticeable endgame combat botting vs. gathering/crafting).

I don’t know how it works for others but fishing there’s no way I can weave in an identical cast with Miqo – I can’t run her, pull in a fish, pause her, then cast identical cast. It doesn’t work she’s too quick on the next cast. Gatherer’s and crafters have been wanting these updates for how long? Meanwhile I’ve been running a trust dungeon with Miqo on as I type this and only occasionally do I need to tab over and make sure I’m not standing in aoe/make my character run forward/select targets.

I also think to the purpose of having Miqo – is there to play the game for me completely or is she there as an aid? Personally I think of her as an aid – she’s there to help me if I have too much pain in my hands for repetitive movement but I don’t want her doing absolutely everything. Some people will want that option of course and will have their own opinions about what development direction Miqo should go in.

I think if you wanted to determine development direction in terms on popularity then looking at how many people are using it for crafting/gathering versus combat assist might be a good way of determining what will get used the most? I’m not sure if the devs get feedback on what people are doing with Miqo?

Anyway that’s all just my opinion, and either way I’m still going to be using Miqo because it’s been a huge change to my ability to play. I’m not here to start an argument or anything but I hope these considerations are given some thought?

Sorry for the long post!

[malarkeyParticipant]

Afaik blue crabs only need the squid strips so you should only need to set your bait and fish until they sense something is amiss. Then just navigate to fish in another spot and go back to reset.

While it can be used for basic fishing the fishing scenario stuff is more aimed towards the specialty fish with funky requirements like time of day, weather, mooching, swapping baits for shadows, etc.

[mbsideParticipant]

yeah squid strips arent an issue i can farm them for free, i just dont use the fishing interface i usually use a fishing scenario when i use fisher. what settings would i check off in this case for blue crabs if you dont mind me asking?

[shallowsteveParticipant]

The ideal way to get blue crabs without wasting more gil than the squid strips are worth is to not hook later than 10 seconds, unfortunately miqo doesnt support that style of fishing, and I don’t know enough about scenarios to know if that’s a thing that can be managed that way.