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[r51093Participant]

kdumbledore wrote:

Now, what I’m curious about is the number one on my server. The average higher ranked player is getting 40-60k points a day it looks like. The number one person, all 3 ranking days, has been getting 120-140k. They are the ONLY one that high. I’ve never even seen another player break past 70k. So how is it this person is getting double to triple the amount of EVERYONE else??? Heck even running as a bot all day yesterday I only got like 44k points. I’m assuming the people getting the 60k amounts are probably also getting the weather nodes, cause I’m missing most of those myself. But that still doesn’t account for the sheer amount of what the heck is that person doing? Lol

there are nodes that give extra hit’s or +1 yeald if you meet the high-end requirements such as haveing enough

• GP

OR

• Perception

OR

• gathering

useing thies people can get more hit’s and or items off of fewer nodes its a way to reward people who deckout thier gathers in high-end gear and believe me they are makeing use of it XD and yes you are right the special nodes do rack in alot more points then the basic one’s.

Sadly i still have not found away to favor thies special nodes while also gathering the normal ones and the weather check feature is not advanced enough it requires endless scenario commands to check the weather ( it was made with the intenion of only being used for fishing at set times of the day ) so at the moment this is what we are stuck with.

Note: how ever i did find a neet trick ( but still requires you to be at your computer to manually trigger it ) if you put prospects ( for miners ) on your hot bar and keybind it something simple like “num3” is my keybind for it, when a special node pops up you can then turn off prospect which will disable lay of the land 1 & 2 forceing miqobot to use “truth of the mountains” and takeing you right to the special node once miqobot is on the way to the special node you can hit “num3” again to turn prospect back on allowing miqobot to use lay of the land 1 & 2 once again

Good god i typed out a book im sorry XD

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[r51093Participant]

shampootie wrote:

Does this account for Umbral weather?

sadly not i am still working on figureing out how the weather features work in the bot, for now it only works by the mini-map miqobot will still hit those special nodes though if it happens to be near by its not often but it dose happen

UPDATE: i am by far no expert on the matter but it looks as though the good weather / bad weather would need to be in its own scenario and constantly checking for the weather conditions and that would not work in a gathering scenario like this as the bot can only do one or the other constantly searching for the weather conditions or gathering the node’s.

The good weather / bad weather was originally made for fishing them legendary fish 🐠 while it can be incorporated into a gathering scenario like this its inefficient, if you would like i can try to make a scenario just for them special nodes but it dont look like it’s posible to incorporate it into this gatheirng scenario

Is there a way to use the “addGoodWeather” or “skipBadWeather” to tell the bot to change to miner and go collect the legendary mat?
I’m guessing no because it was originally intended for fishing.

[HeliadinParticipant]

I’ve been using it on my main for acheivement collection purposes with no issues. The only thing you have to really worry about is a navigation in a scenario going wrong in the Diadem, like for fishing, which will cause you to get stuck in place and then everyone can clearly see you’re botting.

[NekroParticipant]

malarkey wrote:

Late getting back to this as I just started gathering again but yes Miqo does use cordials while gathering in scenarios. I just watched her do it. You just need the “use cordial” box check in the gathering preset, save, and the cordials on a hotbar. I remember it being done before as well so /shrug

Well I remember it to not be working for botanist/miner. I tested it again and, as you said, miqo is using cordials now. It could be that it was fixed somewhere or I was just not overwriting the preset back then when I tried this feature. Thanks for the info.

Still prefer fishing over botanist/miner for those aethersands though.

[SirVGParticipant]

Go after a crafting ranking. DO NOT TRY FOR FISHING. Fishing is always the BIGGEST competitor of all the rankings.

And expect to spend all 10 days working hard on rankings. Start getting ready now by making food and pots for crafting the expert recipes, or at least the food. The crafts for Phase 3 were a definite step up for Phase 2. I would expect Phase 4 Expert to be even harder.

[M0istParticipant]

This was working absolutely fine for me up until tonight. I had gotten duplicates from a different scenario, couldn’t spot what was dupliucated exactly so I just deleted everything, and then imported solely fishing3-double. Now it will go land at the spot, cast like a couple times rather than fish for 30 minutes and says scenario chapter 3 complete but can’t teleport because my rod is still out and just gets stuck there lol. Not sure what the deal is at this point

*Edit* Never mind, turns out I’m just a moron and accidently removed hook from my bar, so it was failing the sequence and simply trying to move on… it’s 3am for me, pls forgive hahah. Regardless Thanks for the efforts put into your scenario here!

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[XionParticipant]

More often than not it get stuck due to “WorkUntil” when time passes the mark cause the node moved/spawned in new area.
I think i’ll stick to my fishing scenario until Miqo patched gatherering changes.

But good for you if it works stable for you.

[TetsuyaParticipant]

not at all, thats why I suggested Lua. As language itself it is very powerfull, but can also be as functional as the current system.
But yes, as developer i can understand it totally. But some interrupt or bypass functions would be great in the scenario engine. Change scenario step depends on weather for example for automated diadem fishing 🙂

Hi all,

I’ve been trying to keep a steady flow of gatherer scrips through fishing and my results are attached. They definitely can be improved but someone else may find them useful. I made use of this Eulmore script to automate the hand in process.

Things to take into consideration for Diamond Pirpira – Yellow Scrip:

• Requires Robber Ball for Diamond Pirpira although this can be changed
• Diamond Pirpira can only be caught between 12:00 and 20:00, so I’ve just AFK’d until that time – you’ll probably want to do something else while waiting 🙂
• My average was 8 per session, however lowest was 2 and highest was 12 – fishing isn’t consistent! but you can make enough to buy more Robber Balls than you started with

Things to take into consideration for Ondo Harpoon – White Scrip:

• Requires Squid Strip for Ondo Harpoon although this can be changed
• Can be caught anytime, currently I’ve put it after the Diamond Pirpira, no time limit however best window is 12:00 till 13:00 which clashes with the above
• I struggled to catch these and failed to make enough to repurchase enough squid strips – this one needs work or an alternative!

Anyway, this has kept me going for now.

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is any one have legendary fishing scenario ?

[LyfoxParticipant]

resetGoodWeather() can be used many times per chapter. But it does not reset skipBadWeather(). From the documentation:

skipBadWeather( )

If weather is not found in whitelist, function will automatically set next activity limit to 60 seconds: workFor(00:01). Consequent calls to workFor() in the same chapter will not change the limit.

It works this way because these functions werent actually designed for Diadem. They were made for legendary fishing. Its for those rare fish that have extreme weather conditions like Helicoprion that can be caught only during Heat Waves after Clouds or Fog. This requires checking weather twice at different times. Thats why skipBadWeather() effect persists through the whole chapter. But for Diadem you need the opposite behavior.

So to use this feature in Diadem you have to split miner and botanist into different chapters.

[NekroParticipant]

If I understood correctly you basically want to have a hook like function, to react to specific conditions in your scenario. So you can interrupt your current activity on a specific time to do something and then return to your old task.

I think your solution would be a little bit too specific and hardcoded to really be worth the effort taken to adjust the gathering presets. As the tabs like fishing, gathering, crafting etc. are there for a single task I guess. For everything else you have Scenarios.

In my opinion a new Scenario function would be better. I already suggested (and some others have too) the possibility to call specific chapters in a scenario from within a scenario (basically like functions, you can call everytime and everywhere you want).
A variation of that with an function like hookTime() would prove quite helpful not only in your case, but possibly in more cases like the old unspoiled nodes from Heavensward/Stormblood or others in the future aswell. The function would work like this:

hookTime(Scenario-Unspoiled-Node-8AM, 08:00et)
hookTime(Scenario-Unspoiled-Node-1PM, 13:00et)
hookTime(Scenario-Unspoiled-Node-4PM, 16:00et)
teleportIf(REGULAR NODE LOCATION)
gatherPreset(PRESET)
gather(999)

So it adds a condition which is periodically checked (like every second or so?) and once it matches a condition, the hook triggers the Scenario mentioned in the argument.

Lets first just assume that the hookTime() function returns to this Scenario and the same Chapter it was called from, but in the end it might need a system like the current koCheckpoint() mechanic where you can tell miqo which chapter she can re-enter on, once the linked Scenario was executed. Also it needs at least a limit how much you can nest those hooks, as in theory you could create a recursion of Scenario-Calls.

Thats just a rough idea, but would be probably more flexible and more useful in general. Also there could be more hooks in the future like hookWeather() which I would love to see, instead of the current skipBadWeather() function, cause it’s still executing the line under it for a minute, even if the weather is not good. Thats a bit clunky to use in my opinion.

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[NekroParticipant]

PinHead wrote:

I tried the Robber Ball route and I disagree with you, using Versatile Lure + Cordials achieved the exact same results in a 30 minute time period and I didn’t have to buy the bait. Also, obtaining Cordials/Robber Balls is just another scenario so the cost of either is negligible due to Miqo doing the work. Time though; my cost of time is different when I am at the keyboard vs. not at the keyboard. I would never run this while I am at the keyboard due to the slow farm rate, however I would run this on my side desk while I’m working.

I tested this a lot aswell and I can’t really believe that, but nonetheless I tested it again.
Edit: Did you turn snagging on? Cause I don’t, maybe try robber ball without snagging.

Both tests during same time period, weather was luckily exactly the same, with the exception that one time it was clear (Robber Ball) and the other was fair (Versatile Lure), which is normally treated as exactly the same in 99% of fishing.

Stats:
~2120 Gathering
~1700 Perception
~890 GP

Robber Ball (Without Cordials) – 30min

-> Total Fish: 62, Collectables: 22

- Low Tier (below 100):  4 (85, 87, 88, 98)
- Middle T (below 200):  5 (113, 145, 146, 179, 192)
- High Tier (>= 200):   13 (200, 200, 201, 203, 204, 204, 206, 206, 206, 207, 209, 209, 209)

Result in Aethersand (59 Total):
-> (Low)   = 0, 0, 0, 0
-> (Middle)= 3, 4, 2, 2, 0
-> (High)  = 3, 3, 3, 3, 8, 4, 3, 4, 3, 3, 4, 4, 3

Bait used: 62 Robber Balls (310 Scrips)
Cordials used: 0

Versatile Lure (With Cordials) – 30min

-> Total Fish: 64, Collectables: 5

- Low Tier (below 100):  0 ()
- Middle T (below 200):  2 (112, 131)
- High Tier (>= 200):    3 (201, 208, 210)

Result in Aethersand (12 Total):
-> (Low)   = 
-> (Middle)= 0, 1
-> (High)  = 3, 4, 4

Bait used: 0 Versatile Lures
Cordials used: 9 (450 Scrips)

So while the final results of the extracted aethersands are not that useful, as that depends on your luck. In average this is the same everytime for me. You’ve the same pool, but the chances for specific fish vary a lot. And in my experience the robber balls are the better baits in all matters (scrips and efficiency). Also: The total fish counts also count in the fish that got away.

AzuraMage wrote:

m I doing something wrong maybe, or is it purply RNG not on my side.
I have 2091gathering, 1731Perception on my fisher, and (490HQ melded gear, with 475 relic) and I’ve been fishing for an hour, without a single fuchsia, get loads of HQ fish which it throws away, but… that’s not what I’m after :p

Well the fish doesn’t need a folklore book so that can’t be it. Ensure that you have the skill on your hotbar which enables collectable fishing and have the right bait in your bag. Of course you could be really really unlucky, but I never fished an hour for it without at least seeing the fuchsia once.

Edit:

AzuraMage wrote:

Edit: I removed snagging, and it worked fine.

Well ok, that could maybe explain that, cause I am not using snagging for it. The test results above are all without snagging.

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[AzuraMageParticipant]

Am I doing something wrong maybe, or is it purply RNG not on my side.
I have 2091gathering, 1731Perception on my fisher, and (490HQ melded gear, with 475 relic) and I’ve been fishing for an hour, without a single fuchsia, get loads of HQ fish which it throws away, but… that’s not what I’m after :p