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[NekroParticipant]

malarkey wrote:

Late getting back to this as I just started gathering again but yes Miqo does use cordials while gathering in scenarios. I just watched her do it. You just need the “use cordial” box check in the gathering preset, save, and the cordials on a hotbar. I remember it being done before as well so /shrug

Well I remember it to not be working for botanist/miner. I tested it again and, as you said, miqo is using cordials now. It could be that it was fixed somewhere or I was just not overwriting the preset back then when I tried this feature. Thanks for the info.

Still prefer fishing over botanist/miner for those aethersands though.

[SirVGParticipant]

Go after a crafting ranking. DO NOT TRY FOR FISHING. Fishing is always the BIGGEST competitor of all the rankings.

And expect to spend all 10 days working hard on rankings. Start getting ready now by making food and pots for crafting the expert recipes, or at least the food. The crafts for Phase 3 were a definite step up for Phase 2. I would expect Phase 4 Expert to be even harder.

[M0istParticipant]

This was working absolutely fine for me up until tonight. I had gotten duplicates from a different scenario, couldn’t spot what was dupliucated exactly so I just deleted everything, and then imported solely fishing3-double. Now it will go land at the spot, cast like a couple times rather than fish for 30 minutes and says scenario chapter 3 complete but can’t teleport because my rod is still out and just gets stuck there lol. Not sure what the deal is at this point

*Edit* Never mind, turns out I’m just a moron and accidently removed hook from my bar, so it was failing the sequence and simply trying to move on… it’s 3am for me, pls forgive hahah. Regardless Thanks for the efforts put into your scenario here!

• This reply was modified 4 years, 4 months ago by  M0ist.

[XionParticipant]

More often than not it get stuck due to “WorkUntil” when time passes the mark cause the node moved/spawned in new area.
I think i’ll stick to my fishing scenario until Miqo patched gatherering changes.

But good for you if it works stable for you.

[TetsuyaParticipant]

not at all, thats why I suggested Lua. As language itself it is very powerfull, but can also be as functional as the current system.
But yes, as developer i can understand it totally. But some interrupt or bypass functions would be great in the scenario engine. Change scenario step depends on weather for example for automated diadem fishing 🙂

Hi all,

I’ve been trying to keep a steady flow of gatherer scrips through fishing and my results are attached. They definitely can be improved but someone else may find them useful. I made use of this Eulmore script to automate the hand in process.

Things to take into consideration for Diamond Pirpira – Yellow Scrip:

• Requires Robber Ball for Diamond Pirpira although this can be changed
• Diamond Pirpira can only be caught between 12:00 and 20:00, so I’ve just AFK’d until that time – you’ll probably want to do something else while waiting 🙂
• My average was 8 per session, however lowest was 2 and highest was 12 – fishing isn’t consistent! but you can make enough to buy more Robber Balls than you started with

Things to take into consideration for Ondo Harpoon – White Scrip:

• Requires Squid Strip for Ondo Harpoon although this can be changed
• Can be caught anytime, currently I’ve put it after the Diamond Pirpira, no time limit however best window is 12:00 till 13:00 which clashes with the above
• I struggled to catch these and failed to make enough to repurchase enough squid strips – this one needs work or an alternative!

Anyway, this has kept me going for now.

• This topic was modified 4 years, 4 months ago by  ramza.

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is any one have legendary fishing scenario ?

[LyfoxParticipant]

resetGoodWeather() can be used many times per chapter. But it does not reset skipBadWeather(). From the documentation:

skipBadWeather( )

If weather is not found in whitelist, function will automatically set next activity limit to 60 seconds: workFor(00:01). Consequent calls to workFor() in the same chapter will not change the limit.

It works this way because these functions werent actually designed for Diadem. They were made for legendary fishing. Its for those rare fish that have extreme weather conditions like Helicoprion that can be caught only during Heat Waves after Clouds or Fog. This requires checking weather twice at different times. Thats why skipBadWeather() effect persists through the whole chapter. But for Diadem you need the opposite behavior.

So to use this feature in Diadem you have to split miner and botanist into different chapters.

[NekroParticipant]

If I understood correctly you basically want to have a hook like function, to react to specific conditions in your scenario. So you can interrupt your current activity on a specific time to do something and then return to your old task.

I think your solution would be a little bit too specific and hardcoded to really be worth the effort taken to adjust the gathering presets. As the tabs like fishing, gathering, crafting etc. are there for a single task I guess. For everything else you have Scenarios.

In my opinion a new Scenario function would be better. I already suggested (and some others have too) the possibility to call specific chapters in a scenario from within a scenario (basically like functions, you can call everytime and everywhere you want).
A variation of that with an function like hookTime() would prove quite helpful not only in your case, but possibly in more cases like the old unspoiled nodes from Heavensward/Stormblood or others in the future aswell. The function would work like this:

hookTime(Scenario-Unspoiled-Node-8AM, 08:00et)
hookTime(Scenario-Unspoiled-Node-1PM, 13:00et)
hookTime(Scenario-Unspoiled-Node-4PM, 16:00et)
teleportIf(REGULAR NODE LOCATION)
gatherPreset(PRESET)
gather(999)

So it adds a condition which is periodically checked (like every second or so?) and once it matches a condition, the hook triggers the Scenario mentioned in the argument.

Lets first just assume that the hookTime() function returns to this Scenario and the same Chapter it was called from, but in the end it might need a system like the current koCheckpoint() mechanic where you can tell miqo which chapter she can re-enter on, once the linked Scenario was executed. Also it needs at least a limit how much you can nest those hooks, as in theory you could create a recursion of Scenario-Calls.

Thats just a rough idea, but would be probably more flexible and more useful in general. Also there could be more hooks in the future like hookWeather() which I would love to see, instead of the current skipBadWeather() function, cause it’s still executing the line under it for a minute, even if the weather is not good. Thats a bit clunky to use in my opinion.

• This reply was modified 4 years, 4 months ago by  Nekro. Reason: wording, more specific examples

[NekroParticipant]

PinHead wrote:

I tried the Robber Ball route and I disagree with you, using Versatile Lure + Cordials achieved the exact same results in a 30 minute time period and I didn’t have to buy the bait. Also, obtaining Cordials/Robber Balls is just another scenario so the cost of either is negligible due to Miqo doing the work. Time though; my cost of time is different when I am at the keyboard vs. not at the keyboard. I would never run this while I am at the keyboard due to the slow farm rate, however I would run this on my side desk while I’m working.

I tested this a lot aswell and I can’t really believe that, but nonetheless I tested it again.
Edit: Did you turn snagging on? Cause I don’t, maybe try robber ball without snagging.

Both tests during same time period, weather was luckily exactly the same, with the exception that one time it was clear (Robber Ball) and the other was fair (Versatile Lure), which is normally treated as exactly the same in 99% of fishing.

Stats:
~2120 Gathering
~1700 Perception
~890 GP

Robber Ball (Without Cordials) – 30min

-> Total Fish: 62, Collectables: 22

- Low Tier (below 100):  4 (85, 87, 88, 98)
- Middle T (below 200):  5 (113, 145, 146, 179, 192)
- High Tier (>= 200):   13 (200, 200, 201, 203, 204, 204, 206, 206, 206, 207, 209, 209, 209)

Result in Aethersand (59 Total):
-> (Low)   = 0, 0, 0, 0
-> (Middle)= 3, 4, 2, 2, 0
-> (High)  = 3, 3, 3, 3, 8, 4, 3, 4, 3, 3, 4, 4, 3

Bait used: 62 Robber Balls (310 Scrips)
Cordials used: 0

Versatile Lure (With Cordials) – 30min

-> Total Fish: 64, Collectables: 5

- Low Tier (below 100):  0 ()
- Middle T (below 200):  2 (112, 131)
- High Tier (>= 200):    3 (201, 208, 210)

Result in Aethersand (12 Total):
-> (Low)   = 
-> (Middle)= 0, 1
-> (High)  = 3, 4, 4

Bait used: 0 Versatile Lures
Cordials used: 9 (450 Scrips)

So while the final results of the extracted aethersands are not that useful, as that depends on your luck. In average this is the same everytime for me. You’ve the same pool, but the chances for specific fish vary a lot. And in my experience the robber balls are the better baits in all matters (scrips and efficiency). Also: The total fish counts also count in the fish that got away.

AzuraMage wrote:

m I doing something wrong maybe, or is it purply RNG not on my side.
I have 2091gathering, 1731Perception on my fisher, and (490HQ melded gear, with 475 relic) and I’ve been fishing for an hour, without a single fuchsia, get loads of HQ fish which it throws away, but… that’s not what I’m after :p

Well the fish doesn’t need a folklore book so that can’t be it. Ensure that you have the skill on your hotbar which enables collectable fishing and have the right bait in your bag. Of course you could be really really unlucky, but I never fished an hour for it without at least seeing the fuchsia once.

Edit:

AzuraMage wrote:

Edit: I removed snagging, and it worked fine.

Well ok, that could maybe explain that, cause I am not using snagging for it. The test results above are all without snagging.

• This reply was modified 4 years, 4 months ago by  Nekro.

[AzuraMageParticipant]

Am I doing something wrong maybe, or is it purply RNG not on my side.
I have 2091gathering, 1731Perception on my fisher, and (490HQ melded gear, with 475 relic) and I’ve been fishing for an hour, without a single fuchsia, get loads of HQ fish which it throws away, but… that’s not what I’m after :p

[nyancatParticipant]

I see what you mean now. I didn’t realize her existing fishing feature could pick up the macro icon. I don’t have to rely on a repeated scenario. Works perfectly! Thanks!!

[PinHeadParticipant]

Nekro wrote:

I would suggest going with the robber balls and ignoring the cordials. Fishing is the most GP efficient activity, when it comes to collectables. If you compare the cost of a cordial to a robber ball you burned trough cordials worth 1000+ baits, which you could have gotten way more than just 300 aethersand from, probably in shorter time too.

I tried the Robber Ball route and I disagree with you, using Versatile Lure + Cordials achieved the exact same results in a 30 minute time period and I didn’t have to buy the bait. Also, obtaining Cordials/Robber Balls is just another scenario so the cost of either is negligible due to Miqo doing the work. Time though; my cost of time is different when I am at the keyboard vs. not at the keyboard. I would never run this while I am at the keyboard due to the slow farm rate, however I would run this on my side desk while I’m working.

[NekroParticipant]

vega wrote:

am i missing something or is it normal that it takes like 4-5 fishes of other kind to catch a fuchsia, + with the robber balls always getting consumed despite releasing the not needed fishes, is this really an efficient way?

Fishing is purely RNG, you can increase the odds in your favor by choosing the correct weather, bait, time and some skills. That also means, that you might get a streak of no fuchsia fish, however you might also get multiple ones in a row. I think it’s the safest method for aethersand farming, because you rarely move.
If you are asking for efficiency, I say definetly. Sure you will use some robber balls, but you don’t need any cordials. The bait isn’t that expensive and you still can get up to 8 aethersands from a single fish (with the bonus).

PinHead wrote:

I used 100+ Hi-Cordial and received over 300 aethersand. This took hours of botting to achieve.

I would suggest going with the robber balls and ignoring the cordials. Fishing is the most GP efficient activity, when it comes to collectables. If you compare the cost of a cordial to a robber ball you burned trough cordials worth 1000+ baits, which you could have gotten way more than just 300 aethersand from, probably in shorter time too.

[LyfoxParticipant]

You can replace Cast skill with a macro on your hotbar. And if you put the same icon there Miqo will hit it and fish properly.

/micon "Cast"
/ac "Cast" <wait.10>
/ac "Hook"

So the macro will cancel fishing after 10 seconds and Miqo will automatically click it again. Works perfectly for Blue Crabs.
Credit to Nekro for the brilliant idea: https://miqobot.com/forum/forums/topic/scenario-blue-crab-farming/page/2/#post-25146

nyancat wrote:

My current workaround is to use a scenario to press a macro icon and then afk for 20 seconds. The macro starts fishing, then after 11 seconds try doublehook > hook. It’s fairly reliable.

Oh ive noticed this after posting my reply. Since you already have a macro just add /micon and let Miqo do her thing.

• This reply was modified 4 years, 5 months ago by  Lyfox.