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The trick to these is crafting them as soon as they come out, and keep on top of the prices. MB fiends will update their prices every five minutes
This is the perfect description of the reason why I don’t like crafting as a way to earn for living… So basically it’s not “craft for 1 min then earn 2 mil of profit”, but rather “spend 1 min crafting and then 2 hours of checking the market and outbidding rivals to earn 2 mil of profit”. Right now I’m having the same one mil of profit per hour just from grinding, BUT!!! this is bot time I’m speaking about, rather than my (human) time. I can multiply these profits 4x if I buy more accounts and put a new toon per each CPU core to run simultaneously (and even more if I buy another comp some day), which can’t quite be done in case of market play…
and buyers usually go for lowest market items even tho they usually end up paying more because of the taxes.
Eh? o_O I don’t get this part… Buyers are supposed to buy the cheapest, no? This is the reason why “MB fiends” check market every 5 mins – to make their lots highest in the list (i.e. cheapest)?
Yesterday I ran the new treasure dungeon and walked out with FOUR fireglass leathers.. already had one on hand, made a shirt and sold it.. Reuse proc’d when I made it, then crafted another one and guess what.. another proc lol that’s 6m+ profits off Reuse alone.
I wonder how soon are we going to see the day when extremely melded set + rotation which allows to make 100% HQ item AND use Reuse at the same time will be obligatory :)) I.e. the day when crafts made w/o Reuse won’t make any profit, because extra mats received from Reuse will be actual goal and source of crafters’ profit 😛
If that isnt reaching, idk what is. I spend like less than a minute crafting 3 HQ BB that last 45 minutes each. Thats enough for a good crafting session, and its totally worth it for 2* food and pots (if you dont think its worth it, then you’re missing the whole point).
Whops! Sorry, didn’t realise at first what “BB” is – I thought it’s some kind of intermediate mats. Well, I use food too, but I didn’t meld any expensive materia, so my combo of eq + materia + food + tea barely lets me create 100% HQ items out of 100% NQ mats, so Reuse is not for me 🙂 at least, not in case of 80** eq.
Also, there’s plenty of synths that use very expensive materials. FireGlass Vest, Indigo shirt, Magicked bed, just to name a few. I dont even need food for these, my base CP lets me 100% from 0% and still have CP to Reuse.
Well dunno… in the world of deflation such crafts are kind of lottery, even w/o Reuse. For example, when I made my first Indigo shirt, I bought each cloth at 3m (just before patch 5.01), and tried to sell shirt at 12m. Failed horribly: was outbid, them indigo price started to go down to as low as 2.2 mil, so even people who were selling shirts at 8 mil had their profits… while I lost a million. After patch was out, indigo prices stabilized a bit… but still, it’s quite bad business atm, especially after they removed tax-free from Crystarium.
I only use Reuse on crafts where the mat I get back costs 1m+ on the MB.
Then it looks like this is not really useful skill… as there are not that many such crafts around.
I use food, HQ BB to craft. That and capped CP allows me to Reuse ad the end of the craft, after getting 100% quality.
So basically you spend some 3 mins more to craft HQ intermediate mats for each eq craft so you can have enough CPs to use Reuse, and receive 1 (one) HQ material back after some 25% crafts? 🙂 Doesn’t look like efficient way to craft… you could have made dozen more HQ mats by this time if you simply crafted eq using NQ mats w/o Reuse!
No idea, but that sounds like an issue on your end… Maybe try downloading the PC app? I’ve used both the website and the app extensively and rarely have any issues.
Naaah, it’s faaar away from my end… Shared this link in our FC – several ppl tried, all failed. We tried different free proxies (US and EU including) – all failed too. I had to use a special semi-free proxy Windscribe to make it though their security. Looks like this goddamn site is blocking everyone from Russia (friggin nationalists), as well as all known proxies, much like PlayerAuctions do… I guess it can be used for really really new recipes, while using the good old simulator for the rest – at least it accepts everyone! Both these sites use the same sequence export format anyway.
Wow. 1 minute and 9s. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over 1 minute. Almost 2 minutes.
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Try this one:
[“initialPreparations”,”comfortZone”,”innerQuiet”,”specialtyReflect”,”ingenuity”,”manipulation2″,”delicateSynthesis”,”delicateSynthesis”,”delicateSynthesis”,”delicateSynthesis”,”ingenuity”,”delicateSynthesis”,”delicateSynthesis”,”delicateSynthesis”,”greatStrides”,”steadyHand2″,”ingenuity”,”preparatoryTouch”,”prudentTouch”,”greatStrides”,”byregotsBlessing”,”carefulSynthesis3″]It needs absolute minimum of stats (one required to even start the craft) plus nearly max CPs (you need Grasp VI melded into 8 safe slots plus some Grasp IV overmelded – not more than 2 overmelds on each item though – plus CP food plus CP tea/syrup), and it makes 100% reliable HQ crafts out of NQ mats only. Specialist required, though… but you don’t craft 80** eq from more than 3 DoH skills, do you?
Here, enjoy:
https://ffxivteamcraft.com/simulatorHow do you make it work for the first time? It rotates its “spinner” for two hours alrealy, and generally looks like hung up… Tried on both comps (both Win7 and Win10, both Firefox and Chrome) – nothing changes.
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Gray.
2. If you meant durability though, there would be no other alternative, because Reuse costs 60 CP and even the lowest durability increaser costs 88 CP.
Waste Not is 56. Besides, it did really receive second life in ShB: in conjunction with Preparatory Touch is makes wonders for rather low price (as Waste Not basically saves 40 dur instead of 20 in case of 4 Prep in the row). Though, it still leaves the question unanswered: how do you manage to finish the craft if Reuse actually procs, so CPs are spent, and you do not have enough durability to finish w/o Waste Not?
these ones work for me at bare minimum stats and under 1 minute per craft.
Not true. Most synthesis/touch skills require 3s delay, so it’s way over 1 min. Crafts which take 1 min or less should be of max 22-23 keystrokes.
They’re not updated to 5.05 recipes, but all the skills are already implemented and you can set up custom recipes there, where you can set all values (recipe level, progress, quality, required stats, etc.).
Hmmm… and what level actually is 80**? %)
Here, enjoy:
https://ffxivteamcraft.com/simulatorThanks bunch!
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This reply was modified 5 years, 3 months ago by Gray.
I have a macro that uses it in case it becomes available
o_O Now you made me curious… You always reserve CPs for Reuse, so macro can press it in case it’s available, but just waste them otherwise? Or you’ve found a way to put these extra CPs into a good use (say, to increase quality) when Reuse is not available?
By the way, I’m using this for 70 durability recipes:
These rotations are waaaay too long 🙂 Why don’t you use Preparatory Touch? It’s fast, reliable and basically gives you 2x Prudent Touch in a single keystroke, at lower price too. LutBot’s sequence is more like the way to go, hehe!
Though, the most interesting question is: what the hell, are you going to say that some crafting site is updated up to 5.05 crafts already?? o_O Goddamned site I’m using for crafting still barely added 5.0 abilities, and it still shows wrong values of progress when you back up your synthesis actions with Ingenuity 🙁
Well you’re wasting time HQ’ing intermediates.
As I’ve said, I need just a single HQ intermediate to make HQ eq using my cheaply melded set. For example, I made 10 HQ tungsten in about 10 mins yesterday, and I’m still using them, as the rest mats are NQ. Not that much of a problem.
Not like it really matters anyways, the market’s already gone to shit Lol
The fun part is that I predicted that 4 months ago, before I even started to play FFXIV, because it stays this way for years and years, in all possible MMORPGs. Crafting is fun, lots of legit players craft, there is lots of competition, so each of them receives maybe 300-500k of profit from every craft during the first days of every new addon (which could probably bring them 10m or even 15m per day), but then market goes to shit, profits drop to as low as 100-150k per item, and it becomes totally pointless to craft (unless you are ok with some 2-3 mil of profits per day). Gathering, though, is not fun. No sane legit player would gather mats for 12 hours a day, so mats price always stays high. This is why “bot” = “grinding”, rather than “crafting”. Crafting is for legit players, botters just don’t need it.
I’ve made a shit tonne of money off materia tho, a good 100m at least today alone Lol.
Then just hush and continue silently, unless you wanna break our own business 😛
Auto-stealth indeed kicks in when you are not mounted only, so if there is at least small chance that you meet aggro mobs (say, FATE spawns), then make sure you use “foot” waypoints at that place in your grid. “Mount” waypoints exist just for places with no aggro mobs (or rather aggro mobs which are 11+ levels below you).
I told you he’d be eating those words
But I do not 🙂 I melded my crafter set with materia 2/3/4/6 only, and sold all materia 8 I bought 2 days before (at about 150% price I paid for it). So far so good: I barely have enough stats to start crafts, but once it’s started, I make HQ intermediate mats like Alkahests / Tungsteen Steel / etc with 84% probability, then I need a single HQ material (plus the rest NQ) to make sure I create actual item like weapons/armors HQ. Once I have more than 10 HQ lesser mats, I just stop trying to make any more of these mats HQ, and simply spam synthesis + Reuse to save my time 🙂
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I’ve just crafted 80 Growth Formula Iota via Miqobot in like 40 minutes and that was enough to get me all books.
Aye, overestimated it a bit 🙂 I’ve got all books too already. Though, it seems that daily collectables are… individual? I mean, Rowena doesn’t accept Growth Formula from me today! I used Refined Natron.
Oh, just you wait a few hours. Materia prices will shoot up again,
400k at our server atm, so yes – already shot. Though, my point was that it isn’t really bright idea to buy materia right after addon is launched. Clever people should rather wait and buy it right before new addon with new crafts.
I believe you’re better off, just melding your gear normally with grade 8 materia and overmelding grade 1-3 materia into the first overmeld slot. That’s enough for now.
When I think about patch 5.1 (that’s in just 3 months or so, right?), which will bring new crafting/gathering sets, make us retrieve materia from Dwarven Cotton sets and lose 60% of materia 8, it makes me cry %) As far as I see, it is possible to use materia 6 and 4 only, well maybe with several cunning 8 (for some reason is costs twice less than command/competence at our server).
Cap your scrips tonight, prep turn ins to buy the books. Rowenna’s shop wont change until 2PM CST. You’ll need 9600 Yellow scrips total.
Damn, I should have asked it before 8pm GMT, when Rowena updates %) At the moment I’ve checked shops tonight, prices for best collectable have gone up already, hehe (but I still bought enough materials). Half a day of crafting collectables incoming, I guess…
And well well, Gray. Who laughs last 😛 ? You simply cannot craft the new recipes, if you don’t have at least slightly overmelded HQ new white gear + buff food. The minimum stats are extremely high. So much for all the dumb people that overmelded their gear.
Well me of course 🙂 as usual (see attach). I didn’t say it’s generally stupid idea to use materia 7/8 – I said that ones who bought it at 500-600k a piece are morons 😀 You didn’t need these melds back then (it was easy to craft ilvl415-430 stuff using Onishi set), and prices have gone down significantly since then. Actually, at our cluster prices have stayed at this level (250-260k/materia 8) for 5 days or so (since 24 Jul), so once message about maintenance appeared, I bought some 10 each materia before prices started to rise again. Not sure if I use it or just resell… once I understand which books I should buy first and which items to craft, I’ll try to manage using materia 6 overmelded with 4, much like before I melded mostly materia 5 into Onishi, and overmelded with 4.
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