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June 6, 2020 at 5:18 pm #22309
Hi, not sure if it’s been raised before, but for NIN, I noticed that combat assist often seems to lose track of the Ninjutsu it’s trying to cast, if circumstances somehow change.
An example of this would seem to be like when the amount of enemies around the selected target drops, while it’s trying to cast Katon. The assist pushes out Chi while targets are available, then just seems to stop dead in it’s tracks when the number of targets drop, as if I’d just hit the pause button. I’m guessing it’s probably because then it switches to trying to cast Raiton, but the Mudra needed are now different, so the assist gets confused. It then resumes when either I manually complete the cast, or the Mudra duration runs out.
Another issue I’ve noticed would be if I manually pause the assist while it’s in the middle of casting something like Huton. It pulls off the first one or two Mudra, I manually pause it, and even though the Mudra duration might have run out before I unpaused it, the assist still tries to complete the cast, which leads to a different Ninjutsu.
Would be nice if the assist could be tweaked to complete or abandon Ninjutsu casts a little more logically.
Thanks for the team’s hard work so far!
- This reply was modified 4 years, 6 months ago by Dragonshy142.
June 6, 2020 at 5:51 pm #22312June 7, 2020 at 2:38 am #22314Thank you for reporting.
Yes, we are aware of these issues. However, the root of the problem lies not in the logic, but in keybind timings. The logic algorithm has a special entry that forces a prepared ninjutsu to be executed even if the conditions change.
Would you please clarify, what keybinds have you assigned to mudra icons?June 7, 2020 at 3:13 am #22315June 7, 2020 at 4:09 am #22316Yes, these keybinds may indeed cause issues with the algorithm losing track of ninjutsu.
The technical explanation behind the problem is rather complex, but here is the short version.
In order to make sure that mudras are executed properly, Miqobot verifies each keybind by looking at the mudra icon and identifying the cooldown animation. Composite keybinds, such as Ctrl/Alt/Shift, can not be sent in one go, because modifier keys must be registered by the game first. It means that composite keybinds require a special algorithm which takes 0.25-0.5 seconds to send them. But the mudra cooldown is 0.5 seconds only. And by the time Miqobot begins analyzing the mudra icon, the cooldown animation may have already completed which results in a broken ninjutsu tracker.There is not much we can do about this issue on our side, so the only solution would be to avoid composite keybinds for mudras.
Please try to assign simple shortcuts without Shift modifier for Ten/Chi/Jin icons and let us know if it helps.Another issue I’ve noticed would be if I manually pause the assist while it’s in the middle of casting something like Huton. It pulls off the first one or two Mudra, I manually pause it, and even though the Mudra duration might have run out before I unpaused it, the assist still tries to complete the cast, which leads to a different Ninjutsu.
This issue also has a solution in place.
The ninjutsu tracking algorithm analyzes timestamps of each mudra cast and automatically discards the ones that are beyond a certain threshold. At the moment the timeout value is set to 10 seconds. So if you pause Assist Mode for 10+ seconds, the Huton cast will be reset. But perhaps we can reduce this value without affecting the rest of the rotation.
We will see what we can do.Thank you for your feedback very much.
June 8, 2020 at 4:40 pm #22333June 8, 2020 at 5:22 pm #22335Yes, this feature is also requested and planned for implementation.
It is classified as QoL improvement. We will be working on Quality-of-Life updates after Crafting and Gathering updates:Thank you for your suggestion very much.
June 8, 2020 at 11:17 pm #22348June 9, 2020 at 3:16 am #22350Does Miqobot need a macro to use GNB’s Aurora properly in Combat Assist? It’s not using it at all.
Aurora does not require a macro.
Miqobot treats Aurora as a defensive ability. It is triggered under the following conditions:- Rampart, Camouflage, and Nebula are not active and on cooldown.
- Health is below 70%.
- At least 1 enemy is attacking you directly.
- Heals and Buffs are enabled in Assist Mode settings.
Could anyone help me with a list of the abilities that need to be macroed so Miqobot can use it (I know about the ground AoEs already)
Only ground targeting abilities require placement macros.
June 9, 2020 at 4:17 pm #22353Yes, these keybinds may indeed cause issues with the algorithm losing track of ninjutsu.
The technical explanation behind the problem is rather complex, but here is the short version.
In order to make sure that mudras are executed properly, Miqobot verifies each keybind by looking at the mudra icon and identifying the cooldown animation. Composite keybinds, such as Ctrl/Alt/Shift, can not be sent in one go, because modifier keys must be registered by the game first. It means that composite keybinds require a special algorithm which takes 0.25-0.5 seconds to send them. But the mudra cooldown is 0.5 seconds only. And by the time Miqobot begins analyzing the mudra icon, the cooldown animation may have already completed which results in a broken ninjutsu tracker.There is not much we can do about this issue on our side, so the only solution would be to avoid composite keybinds for mudras.
Please try to assign simple shortcuts without Shift modifier for Ten/Chi/Jin icons and let us know if it helps.Hi, switching the keybinds for the Mudra around does indeed seem to work, although it is admittedly rather difficult to test for the specific instances when the assist might stop working.
Thanks again!
June 10, 2020 at 11:19 am #22358Hi, I also noticed that SAM seems to have a similar problem, in that sometimes the assist just seems to stop for maybe 4 or 5 seconds. I haven’t been able to catch the exact reason why, but I did notice that it sometimes seems to do so when I have 2 Sen, and have previously engaged multiple enemies.
As with NIN, testing something like this is quite difficult, so I don’t know the actual problem, and the 2 Sen thing might have just been a coincidence. Assist definitely does just stop in its tracks, though, if rarely.
June 10, 2020 at 3:28 pm #22361June 10, 2020 at 9:22 pm #22373Hi, I also noticed that SAM seems to have a similar problem, in that sometimes the assist just seems to stop for maybe 4 or 5 seconds. I haven’t been able to catch the exact reason why, but I did notice that it sometimes seems to do so when I have 2 Sen, and have previously engaged multiple enemies.
Yes, we are aware of this issue.
It happens when Miqobot pops Kaiten in order to execute Tenka Goken, but the number of engaged enemies changes before iaijutsu is triggered. The next version will contain a special rule to handle this case.
Thank you for your feedback very much.Can we have the option to resize the Miqo applciation please? It’s not urgent or anything, but the window can be rather small and annoying when trying to build scenarios and type it all out.
Yes, additional UI options are also planned.
We will try to implement them along with the rest of QoL improvements. Thank you for your request.June 16, 2020 at 12:58 am #22417Can we have the option to resize the Miqo applciation please? It’s not urgent or anything, but the window can be rather small and annoying when trying to build scenarios and type it all out.
It may not be ideal, but I personally type my scenarios out in Notepad++. With some settings, it can correct typos in the command names or names of things like fish. Bit of work to set up though, but can help avoid mistakes.
June 23, 2020 at 4:27 pm #22473Hi, I was rebinding my keys, and I ran into these issues with the combat assist:
“Uhoh. I don’t know where is key ‘0xA3’ for action ‘Hotbar 1, Slot 12′”
“Uhoh. I don’t know where is key ‘0xA4’ for action ‘Hotbar 1, Slot 11′”Those are my Mouse 4 and Mouse 5 buttons respectively.
Previously, I had them on Hotbar 3, Slot 12 and Hotbar 3, Slot 11 respectively, and the assist didn’t seem to have any problems with them. Is there a fix for this, or is it an issue that’s baked into the way Miqo processes and issues keyboard commands?
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