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July 30, 2019 at 5:44 pm #16095
Yup, 1 Master Crafter Book bought for 1200 Yellow Scrips each this time again.
And well well, Gray. Who laughs last 😛 ? You simply cannot craft the new recipes, if you don’t have at least slightly overmelded HQ new white gear + buff food. The minimum stats are extremely high. So much for all the dumb people that overmelded their gear.
Just to recap: You need 2140 Craftsmanship + 1990 Control to even attempt the recipes. Even with a full set of crafted HQ gear you don’t reach this cap. Melding every slot barely reaches it and you will end up having barely any CP to work with. If you max your CP you need to overmeld to reach the stat requirements.I told you he’d be eating those words Lol You simply cannot ignore melds and expect to be able to craft latest gear, it doesnt work like that! Maybe if Miqo was fully functionable, she’d be able to pull it off.
July 31, 2019 at 1:36 am #16116I told you he’d be eating those words
But I do not 🙂 I melded my crafter set with materia 2/3/4/6 only, and sold all materia 8 I bought 2 days before (at about 150% price I paid for it). So far so good: I barely have enough stats to start crafts, but once it’s started, I make HQ intermediate mats like Alkahests / Tungsteen Steel / etc with 84% probability, then I need a single HQ material (plus the rest NQ) to make sure I create actual item like weapons/armors HQ. Once I have more than 10 HQ lesser mats, I just stop trying to make any more of these mats HQ, and simply spam synthesis + Reuse to save my time 🙂
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July 31, 2019 at 1:46 am #16119I told you he’d be eating those words
But I do not 🙂 I melded my crafter set with materia 2/3/4/6 only, and sold all materia 8 I bought 2 days before (at about 150% price I paid for it). So far so good: I barely have enough stats to start crafts, but once it’s started, I make HQ intermediate mats like Alkahests / Tungsteen Steel / etc with 84% probability, then I need a single HQ material (plus the rest NQ) to make sure I create actual item like weapons/armors HQ. Once I have more than 10 HQ lesser mats, I just stop trying to make any more of these mats HQ, and simply spam synthesis + Reuse to save my time 🙂
Well you’re wasting time HQ’ing intermediates. Not like it really matters anyways, the market’s already gone to shit Lol Literally crashed a few hours after servers came online. I’ve made a shit tonne of money off materia tho, a good 100m at least today alone Lol.
July 31, 2019 at 6:35 am #16127By the way, I’m using this for 70 durability recipes:
And this for the 35 dur mats:
Both with HQ Blood Bouilabaisse and HQ Cunning Craftsman Tea, minimum stats and max CP. Thank the Balance for these rotations. They’re just the 1st draft though and nothing final.
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July 31, 2019 at 9:27 am #16129July 31, 2019 at 11:57 am #16134Well you’re wasting time HQ’ing intermediates.
As I’ve said, I need just a single HQ intermediate to make HQ eq using my cheaply melded set. For example, I made 10 HQ tungsten in about 10 mins yesterday, and I’m still using them, as the rest mats are NQ. Not that much of a problem.
Not like it really matters anyways, the market’s already gone to shit Lol
The fun part is that I predicted that 4 months ago, before I even started to play FFXIV, because it stays this way for years and years, in all possible MMORPGs. Crafting is fun, lots of legit players craft, there is lots of competition, so each of them receives maybe 300-500k of profit from every craft during the first days of every new addon (which could probably bring them 10m or even 15m per day), but then market goes to shit, profits drop to as low as 100-150k per item, and it becomes totally pointless to craft (unless you are ok with some 2-3 mil of profits per day). Gathering, though, is not fun. No sane legit player would gather mats for 12 hours a day, so mats price always stays high. This is why “bot” = “grinding”, rather than “crafting”. Crafting is for legit players, botters just don’t need it.
I’ve made a shit tonne of money off materia tho, a good 100m at least today alone Lol.
Then just hush and continue silently, unless you wanna break our own business 😛
July 31, 2019 at 12:28 pm #16135By the way, I’m using this for 70 durability recipes:
These rotations are waaaay too long 🙂 Why don’t you use Preparatory Touch? It’s fast, reliable and basically gives you 2x Prudent Touch in a single keystroke, at lower price too. LutBot’s sequence is more like the way to go, hehe!
Though, the most interesting question is: what the hell, are you going to say that some crafting site is updated up to 5.05 crafts already?? o_O Goddamned site I’m using for crafting still barely added 5.0 abilities, and it still shows wrong values of progress when you back up your synthesis actions with Ingenuity 🙁
July 31, 2019 at 1:33 pm #16140These rotations are waaaay too long 🙂 Why don’t you use Preparatory Touch?
These rotations are only the preliminary rotations the Balance Discord came up with. The real optimal rotations are a matter to be released later and I didn’t bother making up any, since these ones work for me at bare minimum stats and under 1 minute per craft.
Though, the most interesting question is: what the hell, are you going to say that some crafting site is updated up to 5.05 crafts already?? o_O Goddamned site I’m using for crafting still barely added 5.0 abilities, and it still shows wrong values of progress when you back up your synthesis actions with Ingenuity 🙁
Yes. Teamcraft is. They have super quick devs and both their site / app have literally everything you want. They even have a fuckin Desynthesis recommender (not that this would interest you in any way).
What’s pretty handy though is for example their crafting lists (was one of their first features to be implemented). Basically you can make a list of items you wanna craft and it gives you the full list of all needed mats, where to get them, how to get them, where they can be gathered, when they will pop next time (with alarms), in which slot, in what order to craft what, with a checklist after every mat that also works in reverse (e.g. you already have some of the final mats, you can check them and it removes the needed base mats from the list above), etc. etc.They’re not updated to 5.05 recipes, but all the skills are already implemented and you can set up custom recipes there, where you can set all values (recipe level, progress, quality, required stats, etc.).
Here, enjoy:
https://ffxivteamcraft.com/simulatorJuly 31, 2019 at 2:56 pm #16144these ones work for me at bare minimum stats and under 1 minute per craft.
Not true. Most synthesis/touch skills require 3s delay, so it’s way over 1 min. Crafts which take 1 min or less should be of max 22-23 keystrokes.
They’re not updated to 5.05 recipes, but all the skills are already implemented and you can set up custom recipes there, where you can set all values (recipe level, progress, quality, required stats, etc.).
Hmmm… and what level actually is 80**? %)
Here, enjoy:
https://ffxivteamcraft.com/simulatorThanks bunch!
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July 31, 2019 at 6:17 pm #16149Here, enjoy:
https://ffxivteamcraft.com/simulatorHow do you make it work for the first time? It rotates its “spinner” for two hours alrealy, and generally looks like hung up… Tried on both comps (both Win7 and Win10, both Firefox and Chrome) – nothing changes.
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July 31, 2019 at 7:13 pm #16151Here, enjoy:
https://ffxivteamcraft.com/simulatorHow do you make it work for the first time? It rotates its “spinner” for two hours alrealy, and generally looks like hung up… Tried on both comps (both Win7 and Win10, both Firefox and Chrome) – nothing changes.
No idea, but that sounds like an issue on your end… Maybe try downloading the PC app? I’ve used both the website and the app extensively and rarely have any issues.
July 31, 2019 at 9:31 pm #16156Not true. Most synthesis/touch skills require 3s delay, so it’s way over 1 min. Crafts which take 1 min or less should be of max 22-23 keystrokes.
Wow. 1 minute and 9s. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over 1 minute. Almost 2 minutes.
And that’s the long 70 durability macro:
(23:28:41) Crafting step 1 -> key ‘alt+shift+5’
(23:28:43) Crafting step 2 -> key ‘2’
(23:28:45) Crafting step 3 -> key ‘ctrl+alt+7’
(23:28:47) Crafting step 4 -> key ‘ctrl+alt+shift+2’
(23:28:48) Crafting step 5 -> key ‘ctrl+shift+4’
(23:28:51) Crafting step 6 -> key ‘alt+shift+8’
(23:28:53) Crafting step 7 -> key ‘ctrl+alt+8’
(23:28:56) Crafting step 8 -> key ‘ctrl+alt+8’
(23:28:59) Crafting step 9 -> key ‘ctrl+shift+4’
(23:29:02) Crafting step 10 -> key ‘ctrl+shift+8’
(23:29:05) Crafting step 11 -> key ‘ctrl+shift+8’
(23:29:08) Crafting step 12 -> key ‘alt+shift+3’
(23:29:10) Crafting step 13 -> key ‘alt+shift+5’
(23:29:11) Crafting step 14 -> key ‘ctrl+alt+shift+2’
(23:29:13) Crafting step 15 -> key ‘ctrl+shift+4’
(23:29:16) Crafting step 16 -> key ‘alt+shift+8’
(23:29:18) Crafting step 17 -> key ‘ctrl+shift+4’
(23:29:21) Crafting step 18 -> key ‘ctrl+shift+4’
(23:29:24) Crafting step 19 -> key ‘ctrl+alt+shift+3’
(23:29:26) Crafting step 20 -> key ‘alt+shift+6’
(23:29:29) Crafting step 21 -> key ‘ctrl+shift+6’
(23:29:32) Crafting step 22 -> key ‘ctrl+alt+shift+3’
(23:29:33) Crafting step 23 -> key ‘ctrl+alt+shift+2’
(23:29:36) Crafting step 24 -> key ‘alt+shift+8’
(23:29:37) Crafting step 25 -> key ‘ctrl+shift+7’
(23:29:40) Crafting step 26 -> key ‘ctrl+alt+shift+3’
(23:29:42) Crafting step 27 -> key ‘ctrl+shift+#’
(23:29:45) Crafting step 28 -> key ‘alt+shift+6’
(23:29:48) Crafting step 29 -> key ‘ctrl+alt+5’
(23:29:50) Yes, crafting SUCCESS! (1/10)Hmmm… and what level actually is 80**? %)
You can look up the recipe level of every craftable item on garlandtools.
How do you make it work for the first time? It rotates its “spinner” for two hours alrealy, and generally looks like hung up… Tried on both comps (both Win7 and Win10, both Firefox and Chrome) – nothing changes.
That’s really weird. Also never had an issue. Maybe your firewalls or something?
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August 1, 2019 at 6:36 pm #16204No idea, but that sounds like an issue on your end… Maybe try downloading the PC app? I’ve used both the website and the app extensively and rarely have any issues.
Naaah, it’s faaar away from my end… Shared this link in our FC – several ppl tried, all failed. We tried different free proxies (US and EU including) – all failed too. I had to use a special semi-free proxy Windscribe to make it though their security. Looks like this goddamn site is blocking everyone from Russia (friggin nationalists), as well as all known proxies, much like PlayerAuctions do… I guess it can be used for really really new recipes, while using the good old simulator for the rest – at least it accepts everyone! Both these sites use the same sequence export format anyway.
Wow. 1 minute and 9s. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over 1 minute. Almost 2 minutes.
😛
Try this one:
[“initialPreparations”,”comfortZone”,”innerQuiet”,”specialtyReflect”,”ingenuity”,”manipulation2″,”delicateSynthesis”,”delicateSynthesis”,”delicateSynthesis”,”delicateSynthesis”,”ingenuity”,”delicateSynthesis”,”delicateSynthesis”,”delicateSynthesis”,”greatStrides”,”steadyHand2″,”ingenuity”,”preparatoryTouch”,”prudentTouch”,”greatStrides”,”byregotsBlessing”,”carefulSynthesis3″]It needs absolute minimum of stats (one required to even start the craft) plus nearly max CPs (you need Grasp VI melded into 8 safe slots plus some Grasp IV overmelded – not more than 2 overmelds on each item though – plus CP food plus CP tea/syrup), and it makes 100% reliable HQ crafts out of NQ mats only. Specialist required, though… but you don’t craft 80** eq from more than 3 DoH skills, do you?
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