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  • #16724
    gafgarion
    gafgarion
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    anyone have any tips on making hq facet battle gear with the solver?

    #16727

    Scalyblue
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    Don’t.

    Miqo doesn’t touch any of the new abilities until she’s been updated, and you absoultely need the new abliities to HQ the i450 gear. Trying now would need several of the CPU intensive options checked and miqo will probably take over 3/4 of your food’s duration running the simulations on a single craft.

    Considering that there are literally 2 stage macros on balance to accomplish this gear HQ easily, given the appropriate stats, if you want Miqo to do a bunch of them, then configure the macros as sequences of keys in the non-solver macro box.

    #16728
    gafgarion
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    can you link or post macros ive been trying several with no luck just makes nq.

    2085 craftsmanship
    2111 control
    531 cp

    #16734

    Scalyblue
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    https://www.xivcraftingguide.com/505-essentials

    I’m going to tell you now that you’re 10cp short of cap so about half of these macros won’t work for you until you change your melds.

    #16735
    LutBot
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    I dont like that guide, its way too presumptuous. Here’s the one that got me thru day 1.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M7YSfNk8zdy8BKDJ7t7xfh6VnfTd-D167DWss-rYVlQ/edit

    He’s right tho, you’ll need to cap CP. Better start getting into the habit of capping CP.

    #16739

    Scalyblue
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    The rotations in that guide are designed for a 2218/2278/541, which is far, far in excess of what OP’s stats are. That guidewriter also refuses to put the rotation macros in the guide because they like gatekeeping it, by their own admission, I’d say that’s a bit more presumptuous than the guide that gives all of the information and rotations.

    #16740
    Carl Arbogast
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    you absoultely need the new abliities to HQ the i450 gear. Trying now would need several of the CPU intensive options checked and miqo will probably take over 3/4 of your food’s duration running the simulations on a single craft.

    I’m using Miqo solver for all i450 expert 2 stars recipes, Miqo can HQ them with no problem, and will take less than a minute to compute, something around 50 sec, you don’t need CPU intensive options.
    I’ve crafted tons of 2 stars food and potions, raid gear, etc. You just need to meld your gear a little, cap CP, reach recipe min stat requirements, and use some HQ raw mats or HQ pre-craft (done with some HQ raw mats), and the best food.
    Retainers are bringing me back the HQ raw I need, I didn’t even need Miqo to go gather those.

    Miqo solver even not up to date, is fantastic, you just have to do things the way it was intended, use minimum meld, use some HQ raw, use food, don’t use CPU intensive, it’s not necessary.

    #16741

    Scalyblue
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    This is also an option if you decide to waste more time than the bot can possibly save you by HQing all of intermediates, but at this time miqo solver cannot HQ an i450 craft from 0 quality using BIS crafting gear with food, tea, and melds without using the CPU heavy options.

    #16742
    gafgarion
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    thank you all, this has been instructional.

    #16743
    Carl Arbogast
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    if you decide to waste more time than the bot can possibly save you

    There’s no time wasted, you can generate a scenario with 2 clicks, Miqo will take care of everything with no intervention, there’s no time wasted, she’ll do it all, on her own.
    And this is only for raid gear, for potions and foods there’s no intermediate, she’ll craft HQ directly.

    We got what we asked, the bot quickly fixed after expansion release, so that with classic stuff like melds and some HQ raw, the solver could HQ anything.

    #16823

    Scalyblue
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    with classic stuff like melds and some HQ raw, the solver could HQ anything.

    Incorrect. The solver cannot HQ level 450 crafts without CPU intensive options checked, even with HQ pre-requisites.

    4777 difficulty 35 durability 12019 starting quality
    2164/2088/541 Blood Boullibase HQ + Cunning Syrup HQ + Specialist
    All CPU intensive solver tasks unchecked, solve time 1386.2216 ms

    End result: 17859 quality, an increase of 5840, turning up an NQ result in 24 steps.

    Checking Ingenuity, Manipulation, Innovation, and Waste Not will result in an HQ result, but it will also cause the craft to be in excess of 40 steps, increase computation time to 14.2 minutes, and RAM usage to 2.6 GB. I am not wasting the food, the mats, and the time to prove it to you.

    Crafting rotation from balance, same stats, 0 starting quality, HQ’s 100% of the time unless a ‘poor’ falls onto the byregots, is also 24 steps, and requires no computational time.

    Conclusion: The solver is unsuitable for HQing i450 crafts at the moment.

    If you wish to create a scenario or use a macro to craft, that’s a different story, but any implication that the solver is effective or efficient for these level crafts without accessing the 70-80 abilities is fiction.

    #16840

    xivgAnon
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    with classic stuff like melds and some HQ raw, the solver could HQ anything.

    Incorrect. The solver cannot HQ level 450 crafts without CPU intensive options checked, even with HQ pre-requisites.

    4777 difficulty 35 durability 12019 starting quality
    2164/2088/541 Blood Boullibase HQ + Cunning Syrup HQ + Specialist
    All CPU intensive solver tasks unchecked, solve time 1386.2216 ms

    End result: 17859 quality, an increase of 5840, turning up an NQ result in 24 steps.

    Checking Ingenuity, Manipulation, Innovation, and Waste Not will result in an HQ result, but it will also cause the craft to be in excess of 40 steps, increase computation time to 14.2 minutes, and RAM usage to 2.6 GB. I am not wasting the food, the mats, and the time to prove it to you.

    Crafting rotation from balance, same stats, 0 starting quality, HQ’s 100% of the time unless a ‘poor’ falls onto the byregots, is also 24 steps, and requires no computational time.

    Conclusion: The solver is unsuitable for HQing i450 crafts at the moment.

    If you wish to create a scenario or use a macro to craft, that’s a different story, but any implication that the solver is effective or efficient for these level crafts without accessing the 70-80 abilities is fiction.

    Are you using the recommended cross class skills for miqo? I find it very hard to believe that you can’t reliably craft anything HQ with miqo if you have enough gear. I’m about to hit lvl 80 so I’m gonna look into this.

    #16856
    Carl Arbogast
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    Incorrect. The solver cannot HQ level 450 crafts without CPU intensive options checked, even with HQ pre-requisites.

    You’re doing something wrong somewhere, I crafted tons of i450 (2159/2060/603), and level 80 2 stars, and by providing enough HQ mats (which is the new thing ShB put emphasize on, it matters now way more), Miqo never failed on me, with just 53 sec of computation, no CPU intensive options, and I believe I’m not the only one here who used Miqo solver like this with no issue.

    Re-check if you put all abilities (with keybinds for all), and by all I mean all, and as well as xivgAnon suggested, re-check carefully if you’re using all the recommended cross-class skills.

    #16860
    LutBot
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    with classic stuff like melds and some HQ raw, the solver could HQ anything.

    Incorrect. The solver cannot HQ level 450 crafts without CPU intensive options checked, even with HQ pre-requisites.

    4777 difficulty 35 durability 12019 starting quality
    2164/2088/541 Blood Boullibase HQ + Cunning Syrup HQ + Specialist
    All CPU intensive solver tasks unchecked, solve time 1386.2216 ms

    End result: 17859 quality, an increase of 5840, turning up an NQ result in 24 steps.

    Checking Ingenuity, Manipulation, Innovation, and Waste Not will result in an HQ result, but it will also cause the craft to be in excess of 40 steps, increase computation time to 14.2 minutes, and RAM usage to 2.6 GB. I am not wasting the food, the mats, and the time to prove it to you.

    Crafting rotation from balance, same stats, 0 starting quality, HQ’s 100% of the time unless a ‘poor’ falls onto the byregots, is also 24 steps, and requires no computational time.

    Conclusion: The solver is unsuitable for HQing i450 crafts at the moment.

    If you wish to create a scenario or use a macro to craft, that’s a different story, but any implication that the solver is effective or efficient for these level crafts without accessing the 70-80 abilities is fiction.

    Are you using the recommended cross class skills for miqo? I find it very hard to believe that you can’t reliably craft anything HQ with miqo if you have enough gear. I’m about to hit lvl 80 so I’m gonna look into this.

    They’re talking about end game rotations, not leveling up junk. Miqo can easily handly lvl71-80 recipes, but I havent tried 2* (master recipes) since I can easily HQ them with my gear in less than a minute x craft.

    #16863

    xivgAnon
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    They’re talking about end game rotations, not leveling up junk. Miqo can easily handly lvl71-80 recipes, but I havent tried 2* (master recipes) since I can easily HQ them with my gear in less than a minute x craft.

    I know, I’ve used miqo for endgame crafting in the past, that’s why I’m saying this

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