Strange choice for crafting solver

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  • #2590
    soviras
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    The sequence below happened during crafting. Nothing is too strange until step 19. At step 19, 49 CP was available, and it was 15 quality away from 100%. There were 6 Inner Quiet stacks, so Byregot’s Blessing was available. For some reason, it chose to use Rumination, Great Strides and then Advanced Touch to get the remaining 15 quality.
    Why did Miqo make this choice? It seems more efficient to use BB at that point, as Steady Hand was already active and thus it would be a 100% chance to max quality in 1 step instead of the 4 it required now. Log pasted below:
    Step 1. Recommended skill: (Inner Quiet)
    Step 2. Recommended skill: (Tricks of the Trade)
    Step 3. Recommended skill: (Steady Hand)
    Step 4. Recommended skill: (Rapid Synthesis)
    Step 5. Recommended skill: (Rapid Synthesis)
    Step 6. Recommended skill: (Rapid Synthesis)
    Step 7. Recommended skill: (Standard Touch)
    Step 8. Recommended skill: (Rapid Synthesis)
    Step 9. Recommended skill: (Careful Synthesis II)
    Step 10. Recommended skill: (Master’s Mend II)
    Step 11. Recommended skill: (Tricks of the Trade)
    Step 12. Recommended skill: (Steady Hand)
    Step 13. Recommended skill: (Tricks of the Trade)
    Step 14. Recommended skill: (Hasty Touch)
    Step 15. Recommended skill: (Hasty Touch)
    Step 16. Recommended skill: (Hasty Touch)
    Step 17. Recommended skill: (Steady Hand)
    Step 18. Recommended skill: (Standard Touch)
    Step 19. Recommended skill: (Rumination)
    Step 20. Recommended skill: (Tricks of the Trade)
    Step 21. Recommended skill: (Great Strides)
    Step 22. Recommended skill: (Advanced Touch)
    Step 23. Recommended skill: (Careful Synthesis II)

    #2592
    Miqobot
    Miqobot
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    She made this choice because of this:

    Miqobot does not take Max Quality into consideration when solving. In fact, she performs as if the Quality bar would be infinite. We made this decision in order to reduce the algorithm complexity (this way the Solver gets about 1000 times faster).

    Crafting Solver: A Few Advices

    When Quality bar is infinite, (Great Strides + Advanced Touch + Good) is better than (Inner Quiet 6 + Byregot’s Blessing).

    Yes, with Crafting Solver you can notice similar side effects, but the alternative would be to have a 1000 minute solution. If you don’t want to encounter this behaviour at all, just remove Rumination from your hotbar.
    And yes, we will be looking into optimizing Crafting Solver with additional tweaks in the future ๐Ÿ™‚

    Thank you for your feedback very much!

    #2593
    soviras
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    I have found one other strange choice, where it uses 2x Steady Hand in a row (haven’t seen with Steady Hand II but might also happen). Observe is available on the bars, so it should not be to skip one step. Any idea why this happens?

    Step 28. Recommended skill: (Great Strides)
    Step 29. Recommended skill: (Steady Hand)
    Step 30. Recommended skill: (Steady Hand)
    Step 31. Recommended skill: (Byregot’s Blessing)

    #2596
    Miqobot
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    Steady Hand can be used as both a buff refresher and a filler step.
    Besides, if you have only 22 CP left (with 24 reserved for Byregot’s Blessing), there is absolutely no difference whether to use Steady Hand or Observe. Because there is no other way to utilize the leftover 8 CP.

    But of course, it may also be a bug ๐Ÿ™‚
    We can reproduce your crafting environment and analyze the multidimensional solution map of the moments you are worried about. For that we need a detailed description of all parameters used by Miqobot.
    Please check โ€˜Enable Logsโ€™ option in Crafting Solver section. This will create 2 files:
    – miqo_crafting.log
    – miqo_crafting_solver.log
    Next time you notice something weird, please post information from both files. Then we will be able to analyze it and provide a more detailed response ๐Ÿ™‚

    Thank you very much!

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